Where - Shotley, Suffolk.
Visited - Between 2006 and 2009.
HMS Ganges is situated on the Shotley Peninsula in Suffolk. It used to be a training camp for the Navy until 1976, and in later years it was a police training school. It closed in 1998 or something.
At the start of 2006 the site was subject to a controversial planning war - some developers want to build a ton of homes etc on the site, but locals don't want that. In July 2006 the Secretary of State intervened and rejected all plans!
Anyone who visits Shotley can't fail to notice a huge mast that dominates the skyline. I can't find out exactly how high it is - various websites say it's between 130 and 150ft high. That is damn high. And kids had to climb it when they were training in the navy. If that doesn't sound too bad, the wind on the ground was ferocious when I visited. I can't imagine what it would be like at the top of it.
This building was a Signal School apparently, which was created to teach flag signalling and telecommunications. I don't know too much about it, but it did have fantastic bricks inside.
In one room were some educational posters on one wall. They were in quite a bad state, but some parts were still readable. Time to learn some nautical signals...
This'll be where people swam.
There are two of these towers on site, both of which have been converted to water towers. One has had an additional observation post built onto it which gives splendid views accross the estuary to Harwich and Felixstowe. The same tower also has a mast on it, and a broken one is stored underneath it.
Some of the other buildings on site...
An old battery remains on the grounds of HMS Ganges. It was built in 1865 to protect the port of Felixstowe, and to supplement the forts at Felixstowe and Harwich.
Scattered around the site are various bomb shelters.
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Posted 18 September 2006, 13:20 From Andy Ingate
I was there yesterday and got talking to the security guard. He tells me that it is due to be demolished and they could be starting as soon as November! Such a shame that no use could be found for somewhere like this with so much history.
Posted 28 November 2006, 23:10 From Steve Mullins
Last time I saw that pool was 1966, baby stoker , Grenville.
Posted 29 November 2006, 09:40 From Doug
Ex Ganges 1956 very good pics great site, keep up the good work, why not visit Ganges website.
Posted 29 November 2006, 09:50 From Doug
Cor that bloody swimming pool,I was a backward swimmer there,those barbaric PTI's would push you off the sides with a pole.
Posted 29 November 2006, 16:40 From J Beavers
Trained at Ganges 1955-57. Brings back some memories
Posted 30 November 2006, 12:00 From Doug Proctor
Lots of fond memories of this place. Was there 1968 to 1970 and from 1972 to 1974 where I met my wife in the Slops! Lots of free No 8's!!
Posted 30 November 2006, 15:30 From Jim Green
Served in Ganges in 1962/3 as a new entrant. Many memories mostly good.
Many thanks for the photographic record
Posted 1 December 2006, 02:30 From Alex
Love the pics. If you check out the Ganges assoc. web sight, you'll find a site map of Ganges that will tell you what the buildings you have been exploring really are.
Posted 6 December 2006, 13:50 From Brian
Served Ganges 1963/64, the mast is 142 ft high, in my day there use to be a big rope safety net around the bottom. Photos brings back good memories, all boys accommodation has gone sadly. Thanks
Posted 11 December 2006, 22:00 From Darwinsmom
I wonder if anyone knows if any coastguard or waterguard families ever occupied the Martello Tower? My gggGrandfather was a coastguard who lived, with his family, in various Martello Towers across the south coast of England. Just curious.
Posted 12 December 2006, 14:50 From Alex Stoddart
Great pics. I joined Ganges in 71. Got some really great memories from there. The mast was manned by us recruits on special occasions. We used to compete for the hounor of being the button boy.I was on the cow's horns (just above the top yardarm), loved it. Check out the Ganges web sit for pics of the mast being manned.
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:10 From Alex Stoddart
The signal school was used to teach basic comms skills like morse code and typing before we went on to HMS Mercury near Peterfield in Hant. for more intense trade training. This lasted about 6 months.
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:10 From Alex Stoddart
This is the entrance the main dining hall.
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:20 From Alex Stoddart
Rear of Nelson hall leading on to the sports fields
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:30 From Alex Stoddart
If memory serves,this is the bowling alley?
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:30 From Alex Stoddart
CPO/PO's mess at the bottom of the parade ground
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:40 From Alex Stoddart
I think this was the ward room
Posted 12 December 2006, 15:40 From Alex Stoddart
Main admin building on the Quarterdeck just behind the mast
Posted 12 December 2006, 16:40 From DAB @ derelicte
Hi Alex - the bowling alley used to stand between myself and that building - you can see where on satellite photos.
Posted 13 December 2006, 22:20 From Nobby
Joined Ganges in 1956 never been so fit in my life. Remember the pool well as a backward swimmer and after boxing training. Signal School pics especially the Flag definitions and meanings.
Posted 16 December 2006, 16:40 From chats harris
its a sad sad sight the state of it,iwas always led to believe that it had a presivation order on it,or are the present owners just going to let it rot,and then it would have to come down for safety reasons,i just wish that it could be moved to some where like Chatham historic dockyard,what a shame
Posted 16 December 2006, 18:10 From Mick
Greet view of the mast with Nelson Hall to the left of it, and the senior rates mess to the right. I served there in 1961, shame to see it all so neglected.
Posted 16 December 2006, 19:30 From Lofty
I joined Ganges in July 1951 as a 15 year old boy (Signalman ) known as buntingtossers in the navy. Knew the signal school well. Served my first 18 .. months there, then went to sea on a 'Battle' class destroyer as a boy Signalman aged 16 1/2.Did my bit for King/Queen and country.
Posted 16 December 2006, 23:10 From Mick
This is a view of the parade ground with the large building being the Nelson Hall, which was used for parades and drills when it was raining. The building to the left is the old NAAFI building, and behind it the CMG (Central mess and galley), the main dining area for junior rates.
Posted 17 December 2006, 12:40 From DAB @ derelicte
This isn't actually the mast, rather a small one on the signal tower.
But it is a shame that there are no real plans to saving the main mast..
Posted 26 January 2007, 22:10 From salem
my dad trained for the navy here when he was 15
Posted 28 January 2007, 21:20 From Eric Sixsmith
I was there 56/57 and the photo's are not as I remember.I needed discipline and got it and am grateful.
Posted 28 February 2007, 19:50 From ex A/B mick sharp
well ive ive seen it from the bottom and from the button in 1971
Posted 28 February 2007, 19:50 From ex A/B mick sharp
i remember it well
Posted 28 February 2007, 19:50 From ex A/B mick sharp
i remember the quick way down from the top using the forward jackstay cable
Posted 28 February 2007, 20:00 From ex A/B mick sharp
didnt these used to be called faith,hope and charity when i was on punishment
Posted 28 February 2007, 20:00 From ex A/B mick sharp
all that lovely scran
Posted 28 February 2007, 20:00 From ex A/B mick sharp
capt's house me thinks
Posted 6 March 2007, 05:00 From steve quincey
No they were at the other end of the building, these were at the rear and led to the Enright training block, now down to the museum.
Posted 6 March 2007, 05:00 From steve quincey
I was there 1966-67 and was the drum major in the bugle band. Very proud of it too.
Posted 6 March 2007, 20:20 From chris carr
Hello, my father "Dave carr" was a Ganges boy circa 1952-53ish grenvile div. He has told me many stories over many tots!!!
We go to the army v navy every year at twickers with another ex Ganges boy Johny mantle. A real shame to see so much history rotting away.
Kindest regards, Chris Carr.
Posted 15 March 2007, 16:20 From john
hi great pics i went there yesterday i wondered what the place was ,when i seen the big mast i didnt go in the place,but i bet you had a great time in there thew.should of gone in and had a look round wheres the best place to enter.it looks massive place
Posted 31 March 2007, 13:40 From frederick rodgers
Joined Ganges March 15th 1955, I have been to the top of the mast which is 147 feet high.
Posted 12 April 2007, 11:40 From Paul Kenning
Took my Personal Survival and Lifesaving in the pool 1967, I went back to take a look last year, i must admit i shed a tear, Longh Covered way has now gone and Kepple 2 mess. I will always have fond memories of the good times and Oppo's.
Posted 18 May 2007, 22:10 From Hans Schreuder
Ganges page is stunning and the pics fantastic, thanks. Great exploration skills!
Posted 19 May 2007, 13:20 From Roland Elworthy
Firstly, what an absolutely excellent, if rather sad website. Thank-you for posting such interesting photos'.
I explored HMS Ganges many times in the late '80s/early '90s when it was in the hands of the police I think. I remember two really beautiful and unusual Officer's accommodation blocks being demolished and thinking how sad it was. The mast is supposedly grade 2* listed and so hopefully will be saved.
Nearby is Shotley Point Marina which used to be the athletics track for HMS Ganges.
Posted 24 May 2007, 14:10 From Malcolm Owen
ex ganges boy of 1977/67 ex bugle band member, remember steve quincy.good memories but fading fast, what a shame
Posted 28 May 2007, 15:10 From Iain
The tunnels are old air raid shelters mate. Had a pint with an ex-employee of Ganges a while ago. He told us they were thne shelters. I you check out the photos on the Ganges site they show them before they became overgrown.
Posted 11 June 2007, 23:00 From dougie ramsay
remember the plastic cup dipping into the barrel for a cup of orange or lemon squash sorry forgot the naval term for the above
Posted 11 June 2007, 23:10 From dougie ramsay
remember them well having to learn them all
ex yeoman
Posted 11 June 2007, 23:10 From dougie ramsay
remember trying to swim with me overhalls on and keeping one eye on the sailor with the lifesaving pole ready to grab it
Posted 11 June 2007, 23:10 From dougie ramsay
excellent photos sad to see the old signal school photos many a happy memory in that building learning to type blindfolded and to the sound of the millitary band music
Posted 12 June 2007, 15:00 From Murray Gardiner ( Muzzo)
I joined Ganges Feb 71, 23 recruitment, apart from month in ''Short covered Way'' Revenge Mess Nozzers training time. I spent the rest in Frobisher 11 mess.
I trained as a JEM 9 Junior Electrical Mechanic.
Of the 100'or so that Joined with 23 Recruitment only about 40''ish finished.
It really was a Boy To Man life change, I visited Ganges again when I reached 40, The floods of emotion that came on surprised me but I guess that was just a reflection of the significant effect that this place had on me all those years ago.
I was tough, Fair and developed a strong sense of teamwork.
The spirit of Ganges is still with me today...... and always will be....
Posted 30 June 2007, 14:00 From Peter F Smith
Smudge Smith was in Grenville Div April66/67Great bunch of lads.
Posted 18 July 2007, 22:00 From John Wilson
Seeing this site makes the memories flood back. Anson Division 1961/62
Posted 2 August 2007, 18:10 From Lyndon Berry
I served as a rating on HMS Ganges, first in the annexe (Jellicoe 1) now
sadly built over with houses. Then later in the main establishment (10 Mess Blake Division). As for the mast, weel I can tell you that it was mandatory to climb it at least once. We were told that failure to do so would result in a railway warrant to take us home, for good.
So we climbed.
Cannot begin to tell you what it was like to serve on the old stone frigate. It was tough but always fair and served as a lesson for life. I would not have missed it for the world.
Posted 6 August 2007, 00:10 From Roy McManus
Just looked at other comments, Lyndon Berry was in Blake 10 mess, so was I but obviously not his recruitment, when I joined in 1969 it was not compulsory to climb the mast but I did make it to the button (once) pretty hairy stuff. Loved the place, but that might be nostalgia creeping in, it was a bit tough was it not!!
Posted 10 August 2007, 03:00 From Brian Eccles ( 120Y )
Looking at your photo's brought back a lot of memories, some good and some, shall we say bad?
But christ the old girl could really do with some spit and polish now.
Any volounteers boys....
Posted 12 August 2007, 00:50 From Phill Whiteman 1966-7
I stood on the button in 1967 lived in Keppel 4 mess top of the long covered way off the Quarterdeck
Posted 12 August 2007, 01:10 From Phill Whiteman 1966-7
To think that better part on 150,000 lads have all touched at least some part of that mast
Posted 18 August 2007, 15:10 From Dennis Linehan
I done my training at Ganges from 65/67 great pictures but also very sad.I suppose its all gone now I would loved to have visited the old girl.
Posted 23 August 2007, 11:30 From The green tiger
Once more I know the place well My Brother was a button boy and as such had to stand on top of the mast on ceremonial days regardless of the weather. I on the other hand was an Army Cadet so was only allowed to go up as far as the second cross tree wearing full BD and hobnail boots. Very few of us went up that far most only got as far as the first platform, and even then went through the Land Lubbers Hole instead of going round the outside.
Posted 23 August 2007, 11:40 From The green tiger
Steve, you are right. As previously posted I was an Army Cadet and to show us what it was like we were marched up at the double with our .303s and in full kit.
I wish I could march a few youngsters up them now.
Posted 6 September 2007, 23:00 From Phill Whiteman 1966-7
I trained here in 1966 / 67listening to the Beatles Every time I hear certain tracks the memories come flooding back, even after 41 years, I have promised myself a trip there in the very near future. When the mast falls! The buldozers will move in PDQ All Ganges boys that are still alive should go Maybe to the rememberance day in November. It may be the last.
Phill
Posted 7 September 2007, 21:40 From Paddy Power
I feel saddened by these photos, i trained in Ganges 10th September 1968, hawkw 12 mess long covered way, you would think someone would have preserved the place for all those children who did not make the passing out parade.
Tony
Posted 7 September 2007, 21:40 From Paddy Power
I stood on the button, we all had to in the end, it was certainly a struggle for some
Posted 7 September 2007, 21:50 From T.Power
I think the thing that sticks in my mind the most is lying in bed listening to half the lads crying themselves to sleep
Posted 14 September 2007, 21:50 From Jock Campbell
36 rec/Benbow Div. 31mess 1972/73 not much left but reconized most of the buildings, went there in ' 94 took some photo's then, must hunt them out, got some of the last remaining nissan hut, can't see any on your web site, also got some of the gym and swimming pool they look to be demolished as well. I also noticed the running track was turned into a marina. Going back when i'm a 100 to climb the mast one more time.
Posted 20 September 2007, 13:30 From peter
Last time i saw this pool was in 1999 when i was doing my police training there before joining the Norfolk police...happy memories ...NOT
Posted 2 October 2007, 22:50 From dougie ramsay
i can just remember walking along theser corridors on my way to typing in 1971 26 recruitement
Posted 9 October 2007, 10:00 From Richard Gowen
1963-64 - comms
been back a few times - wish I could do it again - would like to see some orignals photos of HMS Mercury?
Posted 22 October 2007, 01:20 From dave ross
a site of historical intrest left to die by a shit goverment that would rather turn everythink into giant housing estates (john prescot biggest w***er ever to walk gods green earth) rant over
Posted 22 October 2007, 14:50 From Les Smith
I was on the end of the port-side Lower Yard-arm way back in `66 for Parents day.It`s a pity its not there any more, it should be Listed as a National Monument.
Posted 24 October 2007, 20:40 From Norman Lewis
At HMS Ganges 1960-61, trained as a Radio Operator (Sparker). The board on classroom door showed Class: Division. WOC: Weeks on Course, Instr: Your Class Instructor. Many happy memories
Posted 12 November 2007, 16:10 From Patrick Hill
Sitting here looking over old pictures of Ganges, It only seems like yesterday I got off the train with the other 200ish 15 year olds, It was the 12th of July 1971, 26 recruitment and we were put in the short covered way (Benbow Div) Ashanti mess. I'm still in the Navy and only 13 more months to do. What a wonderful life I have had.
Many thanks for the memories.
P.S. I think I can remember Alex Stoddart. Not Sure, Must be having a senior moment.
Posted 13 November 2007, 13:20 From gerry murray
I was a front rank drummer in the bugle band with steve quincey in 66/67
Posted 13 November 2007, 13:50 From gerry murray
I remember seeing "Tich Wakefield" win the RN Diving Title in 1967
Posted 16 November 2007, 22:30 From rod somerville
SUCH A CRYING SHAME TO SEE THE STATE THE PLACE IS IN ,COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS WHEN I WAS THERE IN 1961/62.
Posted 16 November 2007, 22:50 From rod somerville
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR LAST COMMENT GREEN TIGER.A FEW TIMES UP AND DOWN FAITH HOPE AND CHARITY AND THEN PERHAPS A SMALL DOSE OF LAUNDRY HILL WOULD SOON SORT OUT A FEW PEOPLE I COULD THINK OF!!
Posted 16 November 2007, 22:50 From rod somerville
THIS CLOCK WAS ABOVE THE DOOR TO THE PETTY OFFICERS MESS.WE USED TO WATCH THE HANDS MOVE ROUND VERY VERY SLOWLY AS WE DOUBLED ROUND AND ROUND THE PARADE GROUND UNDER PUNISHMENT,WHICH I DID ON SEVERAL OCCASSIONS!!
Posted 16 November 2007, 23:00 From rod somerville
THIS IS THE C.M.G (CENTRAL MESS GALLEY)ONE OF MY WORKSHIP JOBS WAS TO COLLECT THE KYE AND STICKY BUNS FROM THERE,FOR THE LADS IN THE MESS(ANSON 20).THE DRINK WAS CALLED LIMERS DOUGIE.
Posted 16 November 2007, 23:30 From rod somerville
I was in Anson 20 mess with you Tug.My name was Binns then.I last saw you at Sultan in 73.I was doing the Stoker P.Os course,and you had finished the Mechs course.Tim Rayner our old P.O Junior was there as well.Happy Days!!Great photos.Brought back loads of memories.Keep up the good work.
Posted 12 December 2007, 03:30 From steve quincey
This was infact the ships company bar, the bowling alley was directly in front of it.
Posted 31 December 2007, 17:20 From Philip Askew
joined 3/10/02, I remember walking through a shelter like this full of CS gas for routine testing of our gas masks !!
Posted 31 December 2007, 17:20 From Philip Askew
sorry, that was joined 3/10/72, 38 recruitment blake 4 mess (from Annex Resolution mess.
Posted 31 December 2007, 18:10 From Philip Askew
I did the final mast maning in June 73.
As you look at phot from this angle I was top right on rigging under half moon.
Shortly afterwards and before leaving Ganges I made the button.
On previous attempts I could not shin up the pole because it was too wide for me (5ft 1/4in 6st 9lb)
I only managed it because a mate pushed me up with his head up my bum whilst walking up Jacobs ladder.
When I was third of the way up it was narrow enough for me to continue.
It was windy and we weren't allowed above the half moon on that day.
This was my last chance before leaving so went for it.
Would you beleive it I got caught by the Bosuns mate when I got down and only received a bolocking !!
(no punishment unbeleivable !!)
Really glad I did, although bending down to reach the lightening conductor was the worst atack of vertigo I have ever experienced !!!
Posted 6 January 2008, 17:40 From Bill Coley
I can't believe that is where I learned my trade. The signal school was one of the better buildings in those days, believe it or not. I can't remember bars on the windows though - having said that - I can't remember all that much about Ganges anyway, I think my mind has tried to blot out all memories of that goddamn awful place.
Posted 10 January 2008, 15:30 From jem allaway
I remember my arrival in Feb 1975 snow on the ground it looked liked a prison. Sent to the guard room first night for not wearing my beret and walking across the parade ground without it on!
Posted 19 January 2008, 21:50 From bob hodges
Hi to all ex nozzers circa 63 64 its sad to see Ganges in such a sad state I am sure all old Ganges boys will agree I hope every one I joined with is still going strong Regards to all Bob hodges L073089
Posted 22 January 2008, 15:30 From Bob Hind
There were more trench-like air raid shelters alongside the pool and P.O.s mess and they were all filled in in July/August 1966. I was at Ganges from June 1966 to April 1967.
Posted 25 January 2008, 01:30 From Sheila Hessing
My Dad joined Ganges as a boy in 1937 and went back several times as an instructor C.P.O./G.I Barber [ALI] we lived in the married qtrs when I was young late 50s- early 60s I have some great memories of Ganges and it is heartbreaking to see the place in such a state when I think of the pride that was instilled behind those glorious gates I am almost grateful that my Dad isnt around to see it.
Posted 26 January 2008, 03:30 From paul hartill (FUB)
Wow the memories are flooding back,i was there in 1964,Hawke 47mess classes 292/293,73rec,then Drake 40mess classes212/213,it was hard but made men of some lads,pity they dont make some sort of memorial on site to remember all the lads who passed through the gates
Posted 28 January 2008, 21:10 From Dennis Linehan
Joined September 1965 I was in Rodney 15 Mess Long Covered Way.Great pics great times had at Ganges,went to join HMS Eagle,London and Juno spent time at HMS Camb in Plymouth and Whale Isleland Portsmouth also Dryad.All good memories.
Posted 7 February 2008, 05:00 From John Mair
I was introduced to this site by another ex Ganges classmate. We were in Hawke 47 Mess from 58/59 242 class. Shame to see the place as is in pictures. We got Shotley Routine once, hell of a week. Climbed the mast at least twice in those days, but not to the button. All the comments listed are so true. 15 year olds, such discipline, parade ground tocuts to cells. No one would believe what we had to go through.
However, it gave me a great basis for life.
Posted 7 February 2008, 14:50 From Tony Thipthorpe
Oliver
Great - scenes I've not seen for 50+ years!
Should we provide a link to the other site?
Tony
Posted 8 February 2008, 05:50 From David Parry
I am the classmate of John Mair who visited this great website yesterday. We have just met up again recently, it being 50 years since we walked thru the gate together in June 1958. Wonderful memories,but sad to see the place so neglected.
To all you ex Ganges boys out there, God Speed, Happy Sailing
Posted 9 February 2008, 13:30 From Cheryl Tank nee Mitchell
I am compiling a Naval Career album of my brother the late Philip Paul Mitchell who sadly died suddenly Oct 07 aged 56 yrs. Phil was at HMS Ganges Aug 66 - Jul 67. If any of you knew Philip and could send me tales of your exploits and copies of any photos you may have I would be such a happy sister. I would like to present this album to Christine, Philip's widow. I hope someone on this site can help me achieve my goal. Many thanks for reading this. Kind regards Cheryl
Posted 22 February 2008, 22:30 From John Goldby
Interesting and good views. I joined the RN at Ganges Feb 1963. A tough year! We all went over the mast 140ft the ratlines were frozen and so were we.
Posted 22 February 2008, 23:20 From Ian Bailey (Bill)
As part of 10 recruitment 1969 Benbow 28 mess.
I have been back several ties to see the place. what a mess. the shame is it was not til I went back as Ships company I got to appieciate the Place. The Mast. The long covered way and Faith Hope and Charity would bring back instant memories to thousands of trogs. it would been better to shut Raleigh then this place and the location near the sea was perfect for all activities.
Posted 1 March 2008, 15:10 From Peter David
One of the better Ganges memory web sites. Joined November 2nd 1971, 30 Recruitment. Left the RN as an RPO in '87. Recently retiured as a Police Superintendent.The picture of the ding hall reminds me of the perk of going to the front of the queue beacuse of my Leading Junior white gaitors.
Posted 5 March 2008, 21:10 From Carla Askew
Random dad is that you bragging again?
Posted 6 March 2008, 18:40 From jeff heard
Was at ganges from february 1961 Frobisher division,good and bad times mostly good. Pay was rubbish half a crown a week. If this is the state the police leave a place then i am very unimpressed.Jeff Heard.
Posted 6 March 2008, 18:50 From jeff heard
Got my bronze life saving medal here in 1961.So sad to see it in this state. Jeff Heard.
Posted 23 March 2008, 16:40 From Paul Mackness
My late Dad was a Ganges boy in 1947-48 and then after being commisioned, 2DO of Keppel Division in 1962 - I still have some Ganges magazines from that year. Great place to be as a kid, even got to go on the occasional MFV trip up the Orwell.
Posted 13 April 2008, 19:00 From Phill Whiteman
These steps lead down to the Enright Block |The block is completely intact and half of it is being used as Ganges Museum. Run by a vey helpful and passionate ex-Ganges boy. I visited there in September 07. He and his wife showed me around aditional parts of the Enright block, (the other half) unused and completely untouched since the sixties.
Even the smell of the place is nostalgic. memories came flooding back. Passageways with coat hooks all along the walls. I could almost see the junior ratings caps and oilskins hanging there, bringing a lump to the throat.
The museum may soon be moved along the road to another location. It is well worth a visit. You may like to make copies of all your Ganges photos to donate to their data log and fill in their guest book and the dated information log. It is really amazing. You are bound to find pictures of old freinds and others you remember. This small part of history would be so sad to loose.
Phill Whiteman
Posted 14 April 2008, 20:50 From doug pash (146 class \'58 hawke 49
noz in annexe march '58 onto hawke 49 mess instuctors = wiggy bennett (the pipe) & ted. fond memories of cmg bread n jam & cold tea.Up the steps from the lower fied wiv 303 over head. great days really made men of us.
Posted 21 April 2008, 23:40 From Phil Glover
Well done for publishing the current state of this establishment, should have been preserved.
Posted 24 April 2008, 17:20 From Malc Smith
Joined Ganges 2 Sept 1958. (Benbow 251 - until I was backclassed!) Some really good (and some not so bad!) memories. Faith Hope and Charity steps ran alongside the entrance to the Signal School - I know because our instructor sometimes did not have a sense of humour and sent us up and down a few times beofre going into the school! Shame to see the old place becoming so overgrown. Knowing how "we" used to keep it. Seen the mast from the top and bottom too!
Posted 24 April 2008, 22:00 From Barry Green
Brings back some really nice (and not so nice!)memories
Posted 27 April 2008, 19:30 From robert sprudd
joined ganges in 65 never been out of wales in my life left as a po junior had a brill time only rember the good times as they say
Posted 27 April 2008, 19:40 From robert sprudd
it really is sad to see a well loved or hated estb go to the dogs like it has good memories thou
Posted 6 May 2008, 16:40 From Chris Way
At Ganges 1967/68 Keppel 1 Mess, 241 Class for Communications Training under RS Julian and PO Cape. I am forever perusing photos of the place and it is so sad to see its demise when so much could have been done with it if the money was there. I am looking for photos of the cinema (gymnasium), I am into the movie hoppy and write stories on cinemas. Anyone has any pics please do let me know at my email address. Many thanks.
Posted 6 May 2008, 21:20 From Chris Way
At Ganges 1967/68 Keppel 1 Mess, 241 Class for Communications Training under RS Julian and PO Cape. I am forever perusing photos of the place and it is so sad to see its demise when so much could have been done with it if the money was there. I am looking for photos of the cinema (gymnasium), I am into the movie hoppy and write stories on cinemas. Anyone has any pics please do let me know at my email address. Many thanks.
Posted 9 May 2008, 23:30 From Desmond Connelly
I joined the Navy in 1972.and was in the Benbow Division.I Joined as Steward but tried to get a tranfer to the Electrical side but was refused.I was 15.5 yrs old when I joined and was bullied a lot because of my small size and timidity.I always rememeber going over to Harwich and Felistowe on the boat and having fights with the MODS on their Scooters.My mates at the time use to buy me drinks and bring them outside of the pub for me to drink as iI looked so young and nobody would serve me.We use to evade the MPs buy jumping over the fence late at nite.
Posted 6 June 2008, 21:30 From marie
HI
I AM LOOKING FOR DON SMITH WHO WAS AT HMS GANGES SHOTLEY AROUND 1955/1956 .
PLEASE GET TOUCH.
Posted 7 June 2008, 19:50 From nigel bishenden
Just found the site. Joined 1968 Drake 15. The tunnels you refer to I am sure joined the hospital wards.
Posted 21 June 2008, 10:20 From Kelly
I spent 15 Glorious weeks here in 1990, whilst training for Essex Police. Brings back a whole heap of memories, but also so sad that the place has been left in such a state.
Posted 22 July 2008, 19:50 From Charlie Attwood
What a site!. Just wandered onto it. I joined the Annexe Sept.6th 1949. Moved over to Collingwood 43 mess. Mast Class was compulsory in those days, it was November - very cold, ice covered rigging, had to go over the lubbers hole regardless, up and then back down. Fingers under cold water taps to try and get some life into them. Then straight to
school for English, couldn't hold a pen for a while! Certainly made men of many of us, and were ready for sea on leaving.Shame on what they have done to the place. Have not been able to go back to see it for real. Appreciate all the work done on the web for old ex Ganges Boys. Bravo!!!!.
Posted 9 August 2008, 19:30 From Dennis Linehan
Is there anyone out there who was in Rodney 15 Mess.It was the winter of 1965 if so leave your thoughts.
Posted 16 August 2008, 01:20 From David in New Hampshire
Great stuff. I grew up in Harwich and used to go with the Sea Scouts every Saturday to swim in the pool in Gangees and also use the Gym.
Gangees should have been a great resource for the area instead of being allowed to rot away.
I also noticed on the Harwich Standard website that the radar tower in Beacon Hill Fort is being opened to the public. I'll have to check that out when next in the area.
Posted 18 August 2008, 00:00 From John Bradbury
I joined Ganges in Feb 1976 and went into Resolution division in a mess near the bottom of the long covered way. Did six weeks there before going to Mercury. As we left the last course joined. Done my 22 and eventually went to Raleigh as a civvy instructor Submarine school. What a difference from Ganges! There was a photo album in Raleigh Heritage centre with lots of pics and articles about Ganges but it was very tatty and stuff missing. I was very sad to see the state it was in. It needs looking after. Anyway, i have some pics of my own which i intend to get to the museum. Best wishes to all my classmates
reso 081 class. Never saw any of them again!
Posted 27 August 2008, 13:50 From Bob (Chico) Kerr
Joined Ganges 1963, Grenville 22 mess, a mix of JEM's and us JNAM's. Sad to see the place now, how could they let it happen, all that history left to rot, a sign of the times perhaps!
Posted 2 September 2008, 20:20 From thomas doherty keppel mess 1969
this is thomas doherty i was at h m s ganges in keppel mess june 1969 want to contact ron dooler and ian shepard and ian corey and arthur farmolow they served with me in keppel mess july 1969 please contact my step son daviddoylewindows2008@yahoo.com
Posted 9 September 2008, 12:50 From Brian Ives
unfortunately the bottom spars of the mast have broken with age. Due to access denial for repairs by the site owner the deterioration will continue unless the mast,fort and buried roman forts receive grade 1 listing. Please forward concerns to Babergh District Council as these Structures are part of the areas heritage and must not be lost to time or apathy.
Posted 3 October 2008, 09:40 From Mr G H Poole
is there any one out there that can tell me if they new a ROBERT ROLFE he was a good friend of mine when we were at BISLEY BOYS SCHOOL TOGETHER he left the school i think in 1947 to go to HMS GANGES he was a friend of DOUGLAS THOMPSON he also went to
HMS GANGES i have made contact with him, any help finding ROBERT ROLFE would be apprectated. thank
MR G H POOLE
Posted 3 October 2008, 10:00 From Mr G H Poole
Iwould also like to mention that ROBERT ROLFE was in DIVISION TYREET (1) ithink i spelt it right
MR G H POOLE
Posted 4 October 2008, 18:40 From mark wallis
I was there when it was the police training scool in 92.
Some great memories. That parade ground was the scene of a few sore feet. Shame it has been allowed to get into such a state.
Posted 11 October 2008, 10:20 From john north
we left ganges in may 1976.must of been one of the last classes to pass out before it shut its gates for the last time.wonderful.
Posted 18 October 2008, 16:30 From R Kennett
Kneeling down on the hard wooden floor of the mess with a shoe brush in hand in rows. Dabbing orange polish on the deck first row brushed it in 2nd and third row buffed it up until you could see your face in it.Made my knees swell.Cleaning the mess windows with toilet paper. Putting red admiral on the wash room tiles. Going to hang your dhobeying on the racks in the laundyr room Running round the parade ground on DO's routine doing the Shotley shuffle Pick your feet up LAD!!! Oh sweet memories
Posted 18 October 2008, 16:30 From R Kennett
Oh yes and 3X tooth paste
Posted 24 October 2008, 20:10 From George Crapnell
Visited Ganges 19/10/2008 in it's delapidated state. The mast yard arm was hanging off, not the same place I joined 14/10/47.such a shame. It should be a listed building after all the top Navy men it turned out.
Posted 1 November 2008, 11:40 From Frank Chadwick
I learned to type in the signal school in 1961. They taught us to type to music and if you screwed up and got out of time, the Yeoman in charge (Bogey Knight) used to drop the Allied Naval Signal Book on your head. For all those who know, the ANSB was timber bound with brass screws and weighed a ton. If he was feeling more lenient, he would just bash you with a brass telescope. We all got to 30 wpm quick sharp. We never got bored or depressed in those days.
Posted 7 November 2008, 10:50 From Fraser Adams
I suppose its a sign of the times but it is sad to see Ganges in this state. I joined in the summer of 1970 in 19 recruitment and had a great year in Blake division before moving to HMS Collingwood.
Posted 10 November 2008, 15:20 From IAN WATSON
JOINED GANGES IN 1971,ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE.UNFORTUNATLEY GOT DISCHARGED IN 1973 DUE TO ACCIDENT.IT WAS LIKE A SECOND HOME IN THOSES TWO YEARS.
Posted 10 November 2008, 16:10 From IAN WATSON
I REMEMBER THE POOL BACK IN !71,THOSES PTIs WERE HARD,MADE SURE YOU STAYED IN THE POOL WITH YOUR OVERALLS ON.THAT WAS TOUGH.
Posted 11 November 2008, 15:00 From Biszan Naraghi
Hi all,joined jan 1973 41 RecJRO Frobisher,broke my heart leaving the Royal Navy, i wonder if anybody remembers me i was the young fool who applied (to my div PO) to become a diver, as one of the guys i joined with (Paul Lines) was one.i was asked what sort of diver i wanted to be he said muff {you went to the caribbean and dived for coral) i said yes they sent me all round Ganges to get a chit signed,sick bay,ptis,dive school, Not one person let on ,what a mug !!! Loved every second of my time there.Fantastic site.
Posted 13 November 2008, 00:10 From Desmond Connelly
I joined HMS Ganges in about 1971,I always for some reason remember a chap called spinks a Scottish chap in the Benbow division
Posted 17 November 2008, 18:20 From john fisher
wasat ganges between sepfember 1968 and march 1969 hawke 12 mess long covered way would love to hear from anyone else there at the same time. Have some good memories.
Posted 23 November 2008, 15:30 From Paul Coleman
28 Recruitment. Blake 9, Long Covered Way.
It changed us into better people !! Wonderful memories. Sad to see these photos.
Posted 27 November 2008, 22:10 From Janey
I was at HMS Ganges in June 1987 when it was the police training centre, I've several photos from that time and have also been back several times since. Although some of the hardest times it's a time that moulded my life and I too feel very sad to see the state of it now. Our PTI's were scary and the pool, well what can I say.....
Posted 1 December 2008, 15:00 From doug pash
60th b/day prezzy was taken to remains of GANGES where i was a noz in march '58 residing in Hawke 49 mess 146 class.missed our reunion @ blackpool 08 due to long term sick bay with ab.pnuemonia + od. plueresy + pulmonary embalism. disharged by pmo april 08.
many many apologies to messmates whom i would have met after 50 years. GANGES made men of most of us the backclassed one ended up in the limp wrist messes of Brighton lol
Posted 3 December 2008, 16:10 From CHRIS GUILLE
Passed out of Ganges 1976.
So So sad to see all the derelict buildings of what is left.
Very very fond memories,but hard at times.
Excellent website,I truly wish this training establishment was preserved better than what it has been.
You could have had a damn good museum in there making lots of money from very interested public.!!!
Sad,Sad Times,my home for many a month.GOOD OLD GANGES!!!!!
Posted 8 December 2008, 16:50 From Ray Ankin
swam for ganges lots of good memories
lots of trophies 1969- 1970 Benbow Division JM(E)
Posted 8 December 2008, 16:50 From Ray Ankin
swam for ganges lots of good memories
lots of trophies 1969- 1970 Benbow Division JM(E)
Posted 9 December 2008, 20:40 From john Ratcliff
I spent many hours in this signal school when I was 15 and 16 in1947. I remember the photo that was on the wall dedicated to Boy Cornwall V.C. killed at his post at the battle of Jutland.
Posted 11 December 2008, 09:50 From Roy Cullum
Picture Posted 6th March 2007 with A/B Mick Sharp thinking Captains House incorrect that building was the Sisters Quarters. The Captain's house was Erwarton Hall outside the village of Shotley in Erwarton.
I worked there as an Maintenance Electrician for 21 years until it closed in 1976.
Posted 9 January 2009, 22:20 From stephen child
reso 26th nov 74 will dig out the photo's
Posted 15 January 2009, 18:20 From Phil Storer
I was at Ganges 1971 JMEM Benbow long covered way. Did my 6 months and left RN when I got draft to Ark. Regretted this decison every day since but the training served me well . These pics fetch back many memories for me but sad to see it now.
Posted 24 January 2009, 22:10 From robert sprudd
sad to see a lovely place like that go to the dogs joined in 65 never been outside of wales in my life until ganges except school trip to bristol zoo had to be done left as a jpo fond mems regards taff
Posted 1 February 2009, 10:50 From geoff wilcox
joined oc t 1962 eagle mess then rodney division class90 went on to become junior instructor back over the annexe what great memories. anyone out there remember
Posted 1 February 2009, 11:00 From geoff wilcox
joined oct1962 eagle mess then rodney division class90 went on to become junior instructor back over the annexe what great memories. anyone out there remember me.If so please contact me@ hmsvernon@googlemail.com
Posted 1 February 2009, 11:00 From geoff wilcox
joined oct1962 eagle mess in the annexe. then rodney division class90 went on to become junior instructor back over the annexe what great memories. anyone out there remember me.If so please contact me@ hmsvernon@googlemail.com
Posted 23 February 2009, 15:30 From Sydney Long
Joined Ganges in 1956 became a man by 1957 able to wash sew darn iron polish run march talk to local girls at bottom of playing field where spitfire was and I learnt how to sail.THe best was how to make friends real ones and have all that to remember.
Posted 24 February 2009, 09:10 From Rob Jerrard
I only visited Ganges once in about 1983 when it was a Police Training Centre. I was a police Inspector seconded to the Home Office at Harrogate and seeing the mast sent shivers through me because in 1956 I had been a Boy Seaman at HMS ST Vincent that better place.
Rob Jerrard, ex St Vincent, ex City of London Police
Posted 25 February 2009, 14:10 From Peter Studd
Spent time from 1954 until I left early 1956 to join my first ship HMS Jamaica.
Went to Shotley year before last and was shocked to see the state of the parade ground.
Oh Dear - no more "Rear man to the Front"
Posted 28 February 2009, 17:10 From Denn(DAVE) Cannon
last time i remb swim bath's was jan 1970 got back late from leave had to clean bloody place for a week
Posted 19 March 2009, 16:00 From aden cooper
not the best place to do your training, pti's you'd rather shoot than work with, nearly drowned in the damn pool.
ther are another two tunnels you aint found yet then, 1 was used as a gas chamber to test your gear in, you only got it wrong once, trust me on this. the other two where off-limits, no idea where they went to but they are long.
Posted 26 March 2009, 15:40 From Joe Shingler D143474P
I did my training here in Nov '73.
I then joined HMS Mercury.
Sad to see it like this.
This was the POLICE DUMP?
Just like the rest of the country.
Time to emigrate!!
Posted 26 March 2009, 15:50 From Joe Shingler D143474P
Xmas eve 1973. I remember "rolling" a canoe in freezing water. This was part of our survival training before going out to the Fens!!
Also swam in the backstroke and crawl division races.(1974)
Posted 3 April 2009, 23:40 From Brian Brenchley
Hello All,
I am involved in researching my late fathers Service History and this starts way back in 1915 when he joined HMS Ganges as a boy. His Serial No was J38506. He went on to serve in the Senior Service until 1919 when he was discharged.
It would be nice to find out more about his time in the Royal Navy Generally as he served on various ships. Perhaps given time I will achieve this but at the age of 78 my time left to do so is now slipping away. But all the time I am able I shall carry on.
Good health to All. Brian.
Posted 6 April 2009, 11:40 From Peter fullarton
l Joined Ganges on the 6th April 1976,l was a member of the last recruitment ever to pass through Ganges.The passing out parade was something very special and something l will cherish for the rest of my life and in my memory.l am so saddened and hurt to the bone to see the state of the old place now.The long covered way has gone now,my mess, 3mess Fearless Division was at the top of the long coveredway,l can still hear the boots marching now.l would love anybody who was in my class,3mess to please get in touch with me,a class photograph which l have lost,would be great if someone had one to copy.
Posted 7 April 2009, 10:10 From Colin \"Foggy\" Goff
Ah yes, fond memories, I joined in Jan 1961, as a "Sparker", living in Hawke mess. Fond days, we used to climb the mast on Sundays just for something to do.
Visiting the museum 11th April 2009 with my son to show him how it was.
Posted 14 April 2009, 19:40 From peter maddison
joined HMS Ganges Annexe on a cold,misserable november nite in 1955.
then on to Anson division made leading boy to PO Boy Robbo Robson.
and still remember another mess mate if your still out there named something Scarborough!
having a bit of a problem wilth the recall.
still vividly remember 1 of our instructors PO Shorty Morall who trained us to sucess in the inter division field gun competition.
i recolect Spud Murphy who i believe came from Manchester.
Posted 22 April 2009, 14:00 From ron anderson
joined ganges on 7th june 1971,25 recruitment.moved in july to 41 mess rodney div,jro 's have vivid memories of my time there.it was tough at times but if you kept your mouth shut and stuck inside the rules you were generally ok.and of course you were young enough to hack the physical stuff.seeing those bloody steps again made me smile about early morning exercise with those maniacal pti s.i saw the photos its so sad to see the place derelict and rodney div which bordered the parade ground is demolished.my goodness. greetings to all i served with lost contact years ago and particularly to mick marsh,martin 'geordie' doyle,sprulsey the manic barber, tony 'gov' govan,and i met steve stone outside old trafford about 1981.hiya steve if your out there.
Posted 23 April 2009, 18:50 From Bob (jumper) Collins
I visited Ganges yesterday 22/04/09 it was indeed very sad to see it in such a state. I joined Ganges 14/08/67 Anson divison (I think I was in 17 mess). I would like to compliment the people who look after and maintain the musiem an exellent job.
Posted 27 April 2009, 11:50 From roger nile
This brings back an awful lot of memories. I joined Ganges in Feb 1961 aged 15yrs. After our entrant training under L/ Tuck we trangressed into the main barracks into Exmouth Division under a Chief Yoeman named Lucas ( Hawkeye). The only man in my 4years service (I was invalided out with deafness) who I could look up to with great affection and respect. Those were the days and when I talk to any one else I know who were there they speak of Ganges with extreme pride that they had the privalige to serve there. Now my retirement is upon me I shall have more time to reflect about my time at "Ganges"
Posted 27 April 2009, 22:40 From william abercrombie
I was a boy seaman in 1952 at HMS Ganges,I can attest to some of the best training in the world, It most certainly has served me well throught the years. Im hitting on the door of 74 and memories from that establishment linger on. I now live in Beaumont, Texas. USA and often wonder about the fellow's that were there with me. I am sorry that they are taking the old stone wall ship apart. I'm sure they could have done something worth while with it, perhaphs a retirement home for Naval personal..Oh well I suppose it's called evolution or something of that nature.
Posted 29 April 2009, 03:10 From Don Veitch
I joined Ganges Sept 4th 1972, 37 recruitment. I was in Hawke 40 Mess (Opposite the post office) in 173 class. Will never forget PO(SA) "Jack" Frost - thanks for everything. Went back as Ship's Co in '75, working for CPO "Buster" Brown and POMEM "Darkie" Thraves in Enright Block. Ret'd after 24 yrs (damn that boys time). Remember Darrel Weavis, Mark Wheatland and others, best wishes to you all, fond memories.
Posted 29 April 2009, 20:20 From peter sylvester
joined 1957 rodney 12 mess 262 class sorry its now in such a state would be great to hear from any old mess mates
Posted 2 May 2009, 14:40 From Robert Norris
Sad to see a place that played a very big part in my life slowly dissappearing, the pictures bring back many memories not all painless (cuts hurt!) Good wishes all of my counter parts of class Hawke 292/293 1964.
Posted 3 May 2009, 19:00 From John Newbery
There is more than enough money in the Ganges 'Kitty' to relocate and preserve the Mast and it should be done.One can ask a Ganges Boy about a Pachyderm and will probably receive a blank look but say "The Mast" and he will instantly relate. It should be preserved until the last boy from the last class stands before it.
Posted 3 May 2009, 22:40 From David Hogg
Joined Bulwark mess in 1971 then Hawke when made leading junior. Great memories and great times and for some reason can remeber names like white from Leeds, William Peach from Dorset, Spike from London and Geordie from Morpeth.
Posted 5 May 2009, 11:30 From DAB @ derelicte
Hi everyone - it's interesting to read everyone's memories of HMS Ganges - please keep them coming. I've slightly re-written this article and added a couple of new photos - hope it's of interest.
Posted 13 May 2009, 19:40 From Jonathan Irwin-Singer
Joined early1969 P109873, Kepple mess or division, like most new entrants we remember that place for the rest of our lives. Was it good or was it bad? very subjective, we were there, and it happened thats it. Later went on the HMS Mercury for more training. I left in 1974
Posted 14 May 2009, 14:30 From Gordon (Daisy) May
Yes like Granville the last time I saw this was in 1966 when it sparkling! Very odd to see the old School looking like it is today - very spooky indeed. Great memories and some great mates passed through these doors !!!
Posted 17 May 2009, 15:20 From willie shaw
Reading all these stories brings back some good and mostly bad memories.
I joined Ganges early in 1966 Leander in the annexe, before moving across to Drake, I too did a signal course,before being discharged as unsuitable.
I made a lot of good friends, most of my oppos were very supportive.
Most of whom I can't remember, just one tiny, I think as he was over 6ft and taff jones.
There was somebody else who took me on a day out with his parents, to clacton if memory serves me right.
If any guys from Drake read this please leave a comment .
Posted 19 May 2009, 20:40 From John Harris
I joined Ganges 1952 49 mess. Could not swim hence backward swimmers, the times I tried to climb up that pole the Club Swingers had. I ended up as a diver. I go back up there to help out in the Museum on some week-ends
Posted 26 May 2009, 15:00 From Mike Maurice
How are you Phil ? Last time I saw you was for a beer on your Sub in Brest ! 1969 I think
I joined up in 1966 Duncan 77 - 11 Mess and visited Ganges on 25th of this month.
Brilliant Museum and George was very helpful there in finding several old photos.
Decided to entered the grounds to have a proper look around and was extremely saddened to see that the mast is literally falling to pieces. The main Port yardarm has crashed to the ground due to woodrot and alot of the rigging is going the same way. Unfortunately I was then spotted by security and politely asked to leave, apparently the land has been sold to a development company.
Fully agree with John Newbery's comment, the mast should be preserved.
Posted 27 May 2009, 23:10 From Alan Ferguson
I had the honour of being the last button boy for the Mast Manning on 14 June 1973 and still have a replica of the button that the chippies made for an appearance on Blue Peter the following week. It is a real shame to see the mast as it is now but it brings back great memories including having three 'button boys' around the button. They will remember who they were! All the best Alan ex JEM
Posted 4 June 2009, 13:00 From Ken Darlow
Joined Ganges as boy entry 1961/2 remember best pal Roy Smart lost touch he lived around Tottenham,"bloody good runner".Treated regular punishment runs as good training and he allways led!!
Posted 9 June 2009, 23:00 From DAVID MC CAUSLAND
jmatesoined ganges in 1954 the best years of my life in serving the r.n.it made a man of me.iam so proud to tell people that i served in the royal navy.the ship mates i met were my family.
Posted 15 June 2009, 11:40 From hARRY hARRISON
I was ships company here twice between 68 and 73, loved the place and have only great memories of the area and of courrse Ganges itself, sad to see it in such a poor and delapitaed state
Posted 15 June 2009, 12:20 From Harry Harrison
Worked here from Junior Chef through to Killick between 68 and 73, (drafted there twice) loved every min of it, it was hard graft being well before the days of convenience foods so everything was made from scratch if not always up to scratch! Went down to Ganges a couple or three years ago sad place now
Posted 17 June 2009, 06:20 From Bob Hind
Joined Ganges in June 1966 in Eagle Mess in the Annex. Then went over to 31 Mess Frobisher Division, Benbow Lane. PO Cook White.
I was very ill while at Ganges in the summer of 1966 and was in the sick bay for two weeks. On coming out I was given a ticket to watch the World Cup Final.
I thought that a few of the boys were going to Wembley to see it in actual fact it was a ticket for the television room!
There were four tv's one in each corner with about fifty chairs in front of each. Anyway I saw the game in which we won 4-2.
I still tell people I had a ticket for the 1966 World Cup Final.
As to the mast, I used to climb down through the fighting top onto the main yardarm and lean against the massive chain and read the Sunday papers.
happy days.
Posted 23 June 2009, 16:50 From dave hassall
joined 63 went in a boy came out a man brings a lumpto your throat when i see any pictures of ganges memories come flooding back only the good ones cuts shotley routine oooohh
Posted 30 June 2009, 16:50 From Robert Woods
A sad, poignant sight! I was at Ganges in 1952/53 (Collingwood 41 mess) . If I ever won the lottery I would buy the place and tidy it up!!
Posted 7 July 2009, 14:00 From Ray McNeill
I joined Ganges in 1961 from the annex to Frobisher 33 mess, the floor looked like a builders yard, when we left ( one ton of polish and loads of blankets wrapped around the bumper ) you could have used it to shave, what a shine, not my blankets.I remember sitting on my bed thinking " twelve years, I wont survive this " retired twenty five years later and would do it all again, its a shame that the mast is so bad.
Posted 7 July 2009, 16:50 From Dennis Bray (Donkey) D117169P
Swam as a backward kipper here in 1970. Leander annexe then Rodney. 29 recruitment.
Posted 13 July 2009, 08:10 From Topsy Turner
Great pictures and web site, I joined there on the 4th June 1963, 59 recruitment as a baby stoker. climbed the mast as we all did, got as far as sticking my nose up above the button and then thought that's far enough for a stoker. I was in 29 Mess at the bottom of Benbow Lane. Our instructor was CPO Bywaters. Was also in the Bugle bad and was proud to be a silver bugler.
Posted 27 July 2009, 13:50 From \"Barty\" Bartholomew
Joined Sept 5th 1972, Chose Radio Operator training got the morse side of things couldnt for the life of me type then or now! so changed branch to cabbage mechanic and Just some loose thoughts Fiske the photographer, Lower track, assualt course, NBCD training, Liberty boat to Harwich, Sunday morning divisions, fridaynight routine etc. etc. fond fond memories also looking for Steve Day (Cook) contact chrisbar57@hotmail.com
Posted 27 July 2009, 14:00 From \"Barty\" Bartholomew
Was in a national diving competion here in 1970 with the sea cadet corps finished in second place then joined up in Sept 1972 37 rec as I recall. grat memories
Posted 27 July 2009, 14:10 From \"Barty\" Bartholomew
hole for the ships cat!
I was in the RNSQ with me tonsils and a couple of us wandered through the near by tunnels and found boxes of glass test tubes filled with formaldahyde and what looked like cat gut for sewing wounds. probably around WW11. never did find out for sure
Posted 27 July 2009, 14:30 From \"Barty\" Bartholomew
Do any of you remember two week work details. I ended up skiveving for a leading hand cook in the RNSQ. I reckon he was thrown out of the SS for be to cruel!
Never seen so many pot and pans...
Posted 30 July 2009, 14:00 From Andrew Ward
My father (Martin Ward) trained there late 1950,s I think. He died six years ago so it is interesting to see were he trained.
Andrew
Posted 30 July 2009, 22:10 From james whitrid
i was here in 1971 ashanti hawk division
Posted 1 August 2009, 13:30 From Phil Tripp
My Dad was at Gnages from 1939/40 in our house the Ganges rules were at times applied, we had a shoe polishing regime a la ganges and I am now 54 and still keep the tradition going! My Dad survived 3.5 yrs in Japan as a POW he said that his training made him physically tough but also mentally strong which was needed in Japan. He LOVED that place, and i can remember looking at the Shotlley gazettes on the kitchen table when a small boy. no one was allowed out of uor house without an inspection! clean ,tidy, and smart appearance, then Dad would say off you go! a great Dad! also used to "sort out" all the school bullies for me, probably would have sorted out their Dads if he had a chance! Ganges boys I have noticed always know how to speak well and present themselves, and be at ease in any company,better if todays youths would have that training and discipline.
Posted 9 August 2009, 22:50 From rory timmins
Joined Ganges in August 1967 Rodney Division and thought I was in Heaven having just done 2 years or so on the Arethusa.So sad to see these photos.
Posted 10 August 2009, 11:40 From rod cox
joined feb 1963..first stop the annex . have visited ganges this weekend 8.aug 2009.what a shame our old home looks in such a state.museum was great if your in the area well worth the visit.you might even get to see a photo of yourself .if you remember me please get in touch.pity the government cant get their act together to preserve this.bet, bet darmouth gets better treatment later on
Posted 12 August 2009, 13:30 From Dave (Titch) bardsley
Joined Ganges 27th June 1966 85 Rec Exmouth Div.
CPO Kavenagh was my instructor , wish I could meet him now and thank him for everything he did that set me on my way to a wonderful career at sea.
Anyone out there that remembers me please drop me a line at bardsleyd@hotmail.com
Would love to swing the old lamp again and maybe exchange a few photos. Brilliant site and amazing comments, it wasnt that bad was it chaps.
Posted 14 August 2009, 10:50 From simon murdoch
Drake division 1952 to 1953 as a boy seaman Does anyone remember C.P.O. tompkins better known as clicker. He was very strict but fair Not all times were happy but it made men of the survivors. I will never forget thye time i spent at Ganges.
Posted 15 August 2009, 07:10 From clive dunne
went here as a sea cadet many times in eariy 70s. by the time i joined up, it was shutting....i was gutted as i lived in Bury. Landed up in Raleigh instead, 1974
Posted 15 August 2009, 21:10 From gail martin daughter of bryan wiliiams
my dad stated his life here bryan williams 1952/54 nice to see pictures of were he was
Posted 17 August 2009, 08:30 From Joyce
Hello, wonderful pictures. I have no conection with RN or Suffolk but I think it is sad to see Ganges go for good...No chance I suppose of getting supporters group going? .... You never know.......probably not...there is money in them there fields.
Posted 19 August 2009, 14:20 From Malcolm (Zak) Owen
What a fantastic set of pictures, joined in Nov 66 with Daisy May, see above. But very very sad to see it like it is now. I remember the days at Ganges with a smile on my face, from man to boy as they say. The world will never be the same. Zak Owen
Posted 28 August 2009, 17:10 From Allen Taylor
this series of photos is the CPO and PO's mess of the parede ground
Posted 28 August 2009, 17:20 From Allen Taylor
yes these are faith hop ans charity my fotsteps are imbedded in them
Posted 28 August 2009, 17:20 From Allen Taylor
this i think is the school building, outside the mauin camp
Posted 30 August 2009, 00:50 From Scott Haston
I did police training for 15 weeks during summer of 1993 having joined Cambridgeshire Constabulary .It is so sad to look at the pictures now.I would love to go back for old time sake however expect the site would now be out of bounds.I felt very honoured to have spent time there with great history.What will come of the site now ?
Posted 7 September 2009, 11:10 From Stephen David Jenner
Looks like one of the messes. one night we held a sayonce you know where a glass gets pushed around a board. One young bloke got himself into a bit of a state. As luck would have it someone climbed down from the roof as his legs swung by the window this bloke lot the plot. ended up in the base hospital all upset.
Posted 7 September 2009, 12:40 From Stephen David Jenner
I was there 1970 not sure of the recruitment number. I have mixed emotions about the time i spent there. Bad times with cpo cook. what a _rick. Good times going to see Fiddler on the roof (we drank the bar dry) any one remember trips up to london. Also Coup Kangaroo courts in the Laundry room. Night of 13th Nov 1970 Discharge by purchase beat up the others.
Posted 7 September 2009, 13:00 From Stephen David Jenner
I am thinking of writing a book on what went on during my short stay at Ganges. Anyone knows what became of Boyce the lad that had the LP's away from one of the common rooms just before summer leave. Send me your stories of the 70's at Ganges. Skin heads at Harwich. Bikers through the main gate. Boxing in the gym ect sjenner@kingred.com.au
Posted 23 September 2009, 07:10 From Phil Askew
Message for Alan Ferguson, mast manning June 73. - I saw your message on last mast manning and would like to hear from you,[philipaskew1@hotmail.com]
or any others, especillally JEM's from Blake 4 mess 1972/3.
I was there 29th August 09 and have dozens of Phots to share.
Posted 29 September 2009, 21:20 From Brian M Dolan
The last time I saw this place was in 1961 when Lt squeegy the bum boy tried to touch me up, had a great time in the Navy!!!
Posted 29 September 2009, 21:30 From Brian M Dolan
Ah yes I remember it well. P.O.G.I. Plumb had me up and down these a few times in 1961, I was very thin in those days
Posted 29 September 2009, 21:40 From Brian M Dolan
wasn't this where the 18a's were dealt out??
Posted 30 September 2009, 19:40 From Phil Y
I learned to drive at ganges, I used to drive a battered old blue Vauxhall Nova around the whole place was awesome, had fun exploring all these buildings. My dad was the security! haha. Miss that old nova. Massive place. 1 day is not enough to check the whole place out. Dunno whos security there now. Great memories. Cheers dad !
Posted 2 October 2009, 15:10 From Jim Townson
At Ganges 1954 Royal Navy boys boxing champion ships, lost in semi finals, Nasty accident in toilet when a boy put his arm through a toilet window whilst skylarking. from an ex-ST Vincent boy.
Posted 7 October 2009, 14:30 From Charlie Dye
Trained at Ganges 1966 (Duncan Div), went back as ships company 69-71, worked in the Wardroom. Had some good times, went back after she closed, brought back lots of good memories. Left the RN in 2001.
Posted 7 October 2009, 14:50 From Charlie Dye
This was the front entrance to the Wardroom, and on the left was the dinning room, I was a Steward there Oct 69 - Oct 71
Posted 14 October 2009, 13:20 From Mike \"Dutchy\" Holland
I did my six weeks basic training here in Sept '74.
I then joined HMS Mercury.
Sad to see it like this.
Posted 15 October 2009, 15:20 From barrie spooner
very sorry to see so many photo's of the old place in a mess, joined 1965 drake 40 would like to meet some of the mess mates give me a call. can't believe the local c.c allowing this to fall into decay with so much history and memories of so many nozzers.this place is a shrine to us all perhaps the remaining of the 150000 should stand up together and get it sorted my grandfather would turn in his grave if he saw it now he was there in 1909.
Posted 24 October 2009, 10:50 From Slinger Wood
This is not Faith Hope & Charity, they are about 200 yards to the left of this picture as one faces this one. This was a back entrance into the very large hospital grounds. I was there Grenville 18 - 1956/57.
Posted 24 October 2009, 10:50 From Slinger Wood
This tower I believe was used to communicate with the many wartime vessels that sought harbour during WWII. I even have recollections of it being used in 1956 as a very minor daytime signal station, furthermore it was possibly used for flaghoisting exercises, prior to one being built within the signal school grounds to the north of the block.
Posted 24 October 2009, 11:00 From Slinger Wood
I visited here in July and was saddened to see the masts lower yard has snapped off on the Stbd side and is lying rotting on the gound where it lays. Who are the prats that let it get to this state?
Posted 26 October 2009, 18:00 From Ken
What a crying shame, all them hours keeping it spick and span, only to end up like this !!
I joined up at Ganges in 1967, and hoping to go back before she completely rots away
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I remember Faith, Hope & Charity ... running with kit bags, and learning to swim in the pool (and how not to drown, despite having a foot on my head !!).
Brilliant photos .. just such a shame to see how she's been left .....
Posted 27 October 2009, 23:00 From James ATTENBOROUGH
14.8.67 a date imprinted on my memory, the date I joined Green Squadron over in the annex. Time then in Hawke Division as a JRO2, recat to gunner in Rodney. Drafted out to HMS Cambridge 14.8.68. A year of hell that I would not have missed. A pity about the old place, I hpe to getdown that way next year.
Posted 29 October 2009, 00:40 From Gerry Murray
I was a front rank drummer in the bugle band between 1966-67 and my drum major was steve quincey, steve if you are out there we where also in the same recruitment 88 and hawk 48 mess
Posted 6 November 2009, 16:00 From Richard W. Fyfe
It is very sad to see that the UK government is so quick to let all these historical Naval Bases be destroyed. HMS Ganges, HMS St Vincent, HMS Osprey and more without thought for the significance and contribution to the once Great Britain and the world renoun Royal Navy.. God Bless all those who served our country and Damn all politicians to Hell..
Posted 6 November 2009, 18:00 From Mark
What a sad run down state, for an establishment that once turned out the cream of the Royal Navy, My father served there 1964 as a junior.
Posted 7 November 2009, 11:10 From John Gordon
Joined in 1964 was in Blake 6 mess long covered way. Recall work ship in the C.M.G. knocking the pipes to watch the cockroaches pour out from behind them. Scooped the cockroaches onto plates and sent them through the plate washer, cooked nicely.
Posted 7 November 2009, 20:40 From Eric Glover
Joined 6/1/48 and enjoyed every minute of it, sure it was strict but that was the norm for that era, I went back last year and was sad to see the state of the place but a visit to the museum was great and I'd like to thank all those that give their time to making it an enjoyable experience
Posted 9 November 2009, 14:20 From DAVID AYRE
I was at ganges in the late sixties it was great fun i will always remember the many friends i made good days
Posted 11 November 2009, 02:30 From Robert Rooke
My father (now deceased) did his basic training at Ganges in 1933/34. He told me that he and the other boys would be chased out of their quarters in the morning in order to man the mast. The last boy out would receive a whack around the ankles with a stick. From there he went to the Med and later served in subs based at Malta during the war, HMS Unruffled in particular. Great pics. Thanks for posting.
Posted 15 November 2009, 01:30 From Butch
Has anybody got any History on what Is now known as 'the old School House'?
There's some writing In the building they use to keep the Bins In carved Into the walls dating back to 1939..
Posted 17 November 2009, 15:10 From JULIE SYDES
My dear father sadly deceased spent some years
from 1950's to 1967 as a training officer at Ganges.
As a child then have fond memories of swimming in
the pool. Could see the mast from our house and one of boys would be on the button reading on a nice
afternoon. We attended ceremonies and would put on
some brilliant firework displays.I felt a privilegded child
and some good memories of our time in Shotley.
My Sister has just visited Ganges to find the site
derelict and not sure what the site will become for the
future, very sad to loose such history and a very brilliantly build building. Great to look at the pictures.
Posted 22 November 2009, 19:00 From steve frisby
d124992m Benbow 33 Mess August 1970 is there anybody on line from old mess? Can't remember what recruitment. Instructor was Chief Coxon Nailor C.P.O.
Posted 25 November 2009, 23:20 From Melvyn Ruffles
I joined Ganges on the 5th May 1953. I was in Collingwood mess with CPO Cubitt,and PO Brown. I left there for the Indefat and then HMS Termagent in Rothsey. There memories that no one can ever take away
Posted 28 November 2009, 12:10 From Alan Routledge
Joined August 1971 as 27 recruitment.Kepple 45 mess Blue mansions.Remember the kit musters and Ganges cage.
Posted 28 November 2009, 22:20 From John Fraser Hunter
Joined Ganges in 1959, at time of last recruitmen of
National Service. Was signed up for 12 years and won prize for Schooling, a book called Sink the Bismark. Left 1 year later from Rodney Division. going to HMS Raleigh in Torpoint. Unfortunately a lot of unhappier memories, including cuts dished out to a friend whowent AWOL to take part in his sister's funeral. Also backward swimming.
Posted 2 December 2009, 19:20 From Tony Farrow
Joined 8 October 1970, 21 Recruitment. started in Leander mess, moved to Frobisher tried out as a JRO, got back classed then reclassified as JEM moves to Hawke Division. Remember when Anson invaded Frobisher after we beat them, Lou Orsi? was a monster, only got passed me once. it was cold standing in Long covered way in oilskins and pyjamas. Happy days
Posted 8 December 2009, 23:30 From brian hayes
PO Plumb had a good spell at Ganges then he was my instuctor in 54/55 and he had us "bunny hopping up Faith Hope & Charity. It is a shame that it was closed down though, would have made a perfect place for "short sharp shock" establishment.
Posted 10 December 2009, 02:20 From graham anstis
My name is Graham Anstis joined at Ganges 10 12 74( ie 35 years ago to the day) Leander 22. After new entrants of course! Me a cornish boy last to arrive and it was snowing! After a few days I couldnt quite believe what i had set myself up for. But did 20 years anyway. Loved it really.
I was a backward swimmer but after a few drownings by PTI s learned to swim quickly.
I remember the long covered ways of all the blocks/ divisions at least the regime gave us that!
Hated the fU-KIg drill hated it, and drowning in the bloody damage control tank thing.
Looking back it wasnt all bad just a wake up pill to a young 16 year old teenager, and bring it all back i say. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kindest to you all Graham Anstis anstisg@tiscali.co.uk
Posted 13 December 2009, 21:30 From Kelvin Coldicott
I joined June 69, Ashanti Mess in the annexe (can be seen front row of photo on Ganges Assc. site), then Keppel. Remember having to swim in overalls, double around the parade ground with mattresses on our backs in the middle of the night, double up and down laundry hill and faith, hope and charity. Aaah, great times!!!
Posted 15 December 2009, 11:30 From John Dann
My father was at Ganges between 1953 and 1956 and again in 1958 -1960. He was a PO, Jack Dann. Anyone remember him? I went there for an open day once seem to remember a museum of some sort.
Posted 16 December 2009, 14:50 From barrie spooner
Was at Ganges on 12th Dec 2009 looking through the gates at history disapearing before my eyes that parade ground you could eat your dinner off it, now it's covered in strubs trees etc,The last time we were there was 1966 drake 40 that was the hut next to the mast, that is now almost beyond repair. to think of the days we had to climb that (by order) HSE would have a fit today. Would be good to meet up with our mess mates sometime.
Posted 19 December 2009, 12:50 From eddie maclean ( MAC)
RE WILLIE SHAWS LETTER I JOINED JULY 66 RECRUITMENT 86 IS THE TINY YOU REMEMBER A SCOTS LAD CALLED TINY GILCHREST FROM EDINBRUGH I SAW HIM LAST YEAR LIVES IN ROSYTH NOW IM STILL IN TOUCH WITH A LAD WHO WAS IN THE NEXT INTAKE TO MINE 43 YEARS ON
Posted 23 December 2009, 15:50 From George Shirtliff
I joined november 1967 Anson Div like many on here I have so many fond memories, so sad to see the way it is being left to decay, looking at the pictures I can still see myself there, good to see so many nice comments, anyone from 98 Rec drop me a line
Posted 31 December 2009, 16:40 From Taff Bevan 38 Recruitment Feb 1961 Exmouth Div
So sad to see the building in such a state. I did my basic radio comms training here (Instructor R.S.Grass).
Can not agree with Bill Coley...I enjoyed most of my days at Ganges.
Posted 4 January 2010, 22:00 From George Harris
Was at Ganges 1960-61 Blake Div. comms class 247-248 in the same mess. Inst. RS (Basher)Briggs, fantastic time, also great pics. Live in Australia and have just retired after 23 years in SA Police., have been able to contact 2 mates from 1960, Colin Barber and Colin Dorsett, Any more of you out there!!!!
Posted 6 January 2010, 19:20 From ex Radio Supervisor Barrie Norman 1956 - 1972
Great photographs bringing back lots of memories - joined Ganges annex in November 1956 then Drake mess 232 class radio operators.
Posted 11 January 2010, 11:00 From Annette Sydes
Visited HMS Ganges site in November 2009. My father Stan Sydes was a Naval Instructor there on 3 occasions. Although I have no memories of Shotley as I was too small we have family photographs and I know we all enjoyed being there very much. So sad to see it derelict but I guess the history still very much remains. I intend to visit the museum the next time I am in Suffolk
Posted 6 February 2010, 15:40 From Roger Dawes
Joined Ganges on 4th Feb 1963, 56 recruitment, the year of the worst winter since 1947.Six, seven foot snow drifts on the way to Ganges from Ipswitch railway station in the old cream and blue Bedford OB coach.The sky and ground were white and the only thing that could be seen about a couple of miles away from Ganges was the mast! sticking up like one giant finger.Ganges was an experience that will never leave me, a love hate relationship, Started out in Anson 20 mess, back classed through illness and ended up in Grenville 23 mess.Greatest achievement of my life was getting my branch badge after thirteen months I think that I had earned it. As for the mast, well I did make it to the half moon but wouldn't push my luck.. Went back again in 1976 just after the flag was lowered for the last time, place still intact at that point, gates locked with security staff on duty. All in all I'm glad that I did it and proud to call myself an ex- TROG, Terry Wogan eat your heart out, you've no idea mate.
Posted 6 February 2010, 15:40 From Terry ( fess ) Parker May 5th 1960
Whenever I hear the term " culture shock" I think of my 1st few weeks at Shotley. I was glad there were only 24 hours in a day as you did not stop until "pipe down" Anyone with a peak cap was GOD. The most feared were the GI's followed by the PTI's, and one RPO Florrie Ford. Two PTI's I do remember were Wally Beard & Jim Conroy, I met up with both of them in later years, had a few hairey "run ashores" with Jim. Like all young sailors I used to look at the Chiefs & Petty Officers and think " I will never get there" doomed to be a AB for 12 years. Left 18 years later as a CPO GI. Ganges moulded your character for life and prepared you to face anything the world threw at you. Thank you Ganges for all the memories.
Posted 6 February 2010, 20:50 From George Harris
After reading Terry Parker's letter, my hair stood on end. Like him the GI"s (GI Thompson in particular) and the PTI's were god and to be feared by all. I also remember Wally Beard as a very amusing sort of a person not the same could be said for Tommo, not many jokes cracked there!!! Thank you Ganges, you made a "Real" person of me
Posted 6 February 2010, 21:30 From Terry ( fess ) Parker May 5th 1960
George, would you believe that Wally Beard went on to become " a man of the cloth " after he left the pusser.
Posted 8 February 2010, 20:20 From jim harrison
i jioned hms st vincent as boy 380 entry january 1961 my mate jioned hms ganges on the same day his name was john wileman from west yorkshire after doing 12yrs he emigrated to australia where sadly he passed away 14yrs ago we had many happy times talking about our time as nozzers great days wish we could relive it
Posted 8 February 2010, 20:20 From Dave Adams
joined ganges 12 sept 1966 77 recruitment duncan 11 mess instructors cpo bowen and po snoxell wow what a state its in now spent hours polishing the mess deck with a shoe brush now its all in the skip! started off in the annexe in dreadnought mess and ironicly my last sub before leaving mob was dreanouht
Posted 8 February 2010, 20:20 From Dave Adams
joined ganges 12 sept 1966 77 recruitment duncan 11 mess instructors cpo bowen and po snoxell wow what a state its in now spent hours polishing the mess deck with a shoe brush now its all in the skip! started off in the annexe in dreadnought mess and ironicly my last sub before leaving mob was dreadnouht
Posted 10 February 2010, 18:50 From George Harris
Fess, Thank you for your response to my comment.
Wally a priest------- hard to see but knowing him as I did and what a comedian he was, yes anything was possible
Posted 13 February 2010, 18:40 From Paul Martin ( Pincher )
Joined 5th September 1972
Remember being woken up by 2 binlids being banged together and having to shave?? 15yrs old and no hair.
Joined hawke division, straight into the intermess/ inter divisional boxing. PTI Tug Wilson ( giant of a man) put you everything. Window ladder display 73 i think, met the duke! - come down the rope upside down to the beat of the drum,Assault course team, athletics,cross country, ganges rugby team
Spent most of the time with Dave Orgacki if anyone remembers him - great water polo player
Posted 13 February 2010, 23:00 From tony Angell
Paul Martin, yes I remember you and Dave, spent my time a Ganges with you would love to make contact with you, in contact with a couple of the lads from 38 mess. face book me
Posted 14 February 2010, 20:30 From Cliff Gathercole
Junior Seaman 1st Class. 29 recruitment Duncan 11 mess 1960 to 1961. Did my basic training as a RP before going on draft to Dryad. I visited Ganges three years ago. It brought back some fond memories and indeed some bad ones. I shook my head in disbelief when I saw the state of the place.
Posted 21 February 2010, 01:50 From Garry Carter
Joined Ganges march 1976 resolution 142 17 mess. Hardest six weeks ever but set my standards of life.Will never forget how proud we were when we passed out of there.
Posted 24 February 2010, 17:10 From Dave Lawton
How interesting to read all the comments. I joined Ganges on September 1st 1963 and lived in Benbow 28 Mess. Two instructors were Ch, ME Rusty Steele and Chief Mech Dinger Bell, great guys. After my initial shock joining the annexe I got over my homesickness and went on to enjoy my time there and make the most of the opportunities on offer. I left to join HMS Protector where I served my next two years and becme an 'adult' 18 years old. Would not have missed it for the world!!!!
Posted 5 March 2010, 17:40 From Pete Wilson
joined a cold Feb 65 Duncan 12.. still remember thinking what old salts the junior leaders were compared to us new boys ,(all of 16) but what power,I can still hear them bellowing out Eft (left) - Iht (right) . would not say it was great but the memories of the lads you were with 24/7 still come back. funny enough during 12 years never saw anyone from our class. sad it's gone but would never had survived "Human Right Brigade" of today.
Posted 7 March 2010, 12:30 From Alan Renwick
Joined Ganges Sept 70,Anson 21 mess long covered way,was at the old place couple of years ago what a bloody shame to let it go to rack and ruin.At least the old school house has been turned into flats.I am proud to be called a Ganges lad,the cream of the Royal Navy.
Posted 7 March 2010, 16:40 From Alan Renwick
not that Im biased you understand!!! I always thought that Ganges lads went to the fleet with a better understanding of the RN.
Posted 9 March 2010, 16:00 From bob huntley
Joined ganges september 1964 (giant recruitment)
instucters were PO Jock Barrie and Chief PO Noel Whitlock. Happy but tough days.I was in Hawk division, the only name i,ve recogised is PAUL HARTILL (FUB) best of luck to him. Sorry to see the government has let it go to rack and ruin, so sad
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