NGTE - National Gas Turbine Establishment

Photos - 83.
Where - Pyestock, Hampshire.
Visited - January 2007.
Posted - 16 January 2007.
Categories - industry, ngte.

In 1918 the Royal Aircraft Establishment was built at Pyestock (nr Farnborough) to develop aircraft engine technology. Sir Frank Whittle established Power Jets Ltd nearby to test and develop gas turbines / jet engines. In 1944 (or 1946 - it changes depending on where you read) it was nationalised and became the National Gas Turbine Establishment. The NGTE was one of the leading centres in the world and played a major role in developing jet engines for many years, including the one used in Concorde.

In the 1990s it became the Defence Research Agency and then the Defence Evaluation and Research Agency. The government was reluctant to invest further in the agency and in 2002 it was privatised, with the government creating the company known as Qinetiq. Since privatisation the site has gradually closed down, with only a small portion of the site still being used by Qinetiq and Sigma.

Covering around 108 acres, the site is huge. Tesco want to knock it all down and build a distribution centre. A fantastic piece of Britain's industrial heritage will be lost.

I'm not going to pretend to know how anything there works or what it does. All I know that there are huge pipes and huge machines. The titles of the buildings are based on a 1956 map, so may not be totally accurate.

Outside

I can't even begin to describe how huge the place is. You can see the size of some of the buildings and pipes here.

The pictures still don't really convey the size. Wait till we go into some of the buildings...

Air House

We went through a random door and ended up in this. It is pretty much the largest building on site. There were eight huge generators in here. Being an "air house", I imagine these generated and pushed the air through the huge pipes on site.

Eight generators - one massive (super-retro) control room.

The guy who worked in one of the offices must've been really bored. It was packed with classic early-90's Amiga games like Worms, Beneath A Steel Sky and Lemmings. And an obligatory nudey calendar.

Between the turbine hall and the offices was a huge corridor with a load of locked doors. One was open though. Inside was a hatch which led down to the insides of one of the huge pipes (you couldn't actually get into the pipe though). The walls weren't actually walls, rather some huge air filter elements. So, I assume that every room was used in some sort of air-filtration process.

Cell 3

This was next. The altitude test cell was used to test engines at ultra-low temperatures (as found at high altitudes!)

We had a little investigate underground at the end of the day and ended up in the bowels of the cell. The huge doors look like something out of a crazy sci-fi film.

Control 10

This must be a new addition as it wasn't on our map. Just one huge generator and mini control room in here.

Cell 4

This one isn't on the map as well so I don't know what it is. All I know is that this machine is the largest thing ever. You can see Speed standing on top of it in the second photo. A recent film - Sahara - was filmed in here. There were signs and props lying around.

Plant Compressor House

Another huge building - this one full of compressors and instruments.

There was another retro control room here.

Cubicle C3. There were five cubicles like this along one side of the building. Each contained a raised viewing/control room overlooking the main testing cubicles.

Cubicle A3. There were also three larger cubicles on the opposite side of the building. One of them was an "Isentropic Light Piston Facility", and the one pictured was a "Ludwig something or other". I love the wooden control board - it made a change from the light green everywhere else.

The three didn't run the full length. At one end was the "Cathedral" - a huge testing cubicle, about 6 storeys high!

There were a few offices and meeting rooms too.

Cells 1 & 2

The offices of this section looked like something straight out of Star Trek (the really old episodes).

Battle House

Some combustion tests of some sort went on in here.

There was also large office/drawing room. The Pot Plant is plastic. Hi peugeot people.

Power Station

We made our way to the power station next. There was a beautiful little control room there - I can imagine sitting at the desk all day just watching the controls and pushing buttons. It didn't look like it had been used since the 70's, although there was some sugar in a drawer dated 1995.

The main hall in the power station had one huge generator.

By this time the sun was disappearing quickly. We had a little poke around some other little office buildings too, but didn't really bother getting into them.

We went back to the altitude test cell and had a little look under it. We and found a tunnel. This was about 200-300 metres long and led to the Control Building (sort of under the bulb on the map). It was dark and I didn't take any photos in there, but there were some modernish desks and controls.

Way out

Quite content with the 9 hours we spent on site we decided to leave. We went a ludicrous route which involved going up and over about 9 huge pipes. After 3 of them we were knackered and saw there was a nice flat walkway going accross them all.

I had time for one final photo. Setting up in the dark was a bad idea. My tripod decided to make me bleed for the third time in the day, and it broke. So I ditched it.

I think that just about shows what we saw - we were there for nine hours and still didn't see everything.

Update

Since writing this entry, probably the most detailed NGTE website ever has been launched. And it's still a work in progress. Check it out...


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  1. Posted 11 June 2007, 13:40 From Mike Hatch

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    This is a spray bar or carriage, possibly from Cell 1 or 2, but could be cell 3. as engines were tested the exhaust was cooled by these spray bars. It also helped to silence the noise.

  2. Posted 11 June 2007, 13:40 From Mike Hatch

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    Battle House was still in use by Quinetic right through to about 2004, I was still installing equipment there then. It gets its name from the boilers, 3 huge "Battle" class Destroyer boilers (from decommissioned wartime ships) were installed to provide the high pressure steam required for the Generator House

  3. Posted 11 June 2007, 13:40 From Mike Hatch

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    Ramp from the rear of the Computer building to cell 3 (on the left) to Cell 4 (on the right). Cell 4 did a lot of the testing for Concorde engines. I can remember working in the guts of cell 4 listening to the radio about the ill fated Apollo 13 trip.

  4. Posted 11 June 2007, 14:10 From Mike Hatch

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    An air pressure monitoring cabinet. Lots of these dotted about in some form or another in most of the test cells. Engines under test had pressure monitoring points all over them, piped back to a cabinet such as this one. The transducers were wired to an data logging system, probably the cabinet behind it, signals from this went back to the computer building. Computers were an Elliott 803B, Digital PDP-7, Scientific Data Systems SDS 9300 and a Digital PDP11-45.

  5. Posted 13 June 2007, 02:00 From Rick

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    Appears to be a supersonic windtunnel. I've played with a much smaller version.

  6. Posted 26 August 2007, 17:00 From Tim - f/ Canada

    Very cool.

    It is amazing that this stuff is just sitting there like a time capsule.

  7. Posted 14 October 2007, 21:40 From andrew hyde

    good photos my dad has some good memorys of pystock or ngte

  8. Posted 2 November 2007, 22:10 From ROB WILKINSON

    DID MY APPRENTISHIP THERE STARTING 1960 MY FATHER WORKED WITH SIR FRANK WHITTLE AND WAS IN CHARGE OF THE CELLS

  9. Posted 16 November 2007, 00:30 From Laura Lewis Shirley

    My father William F Lewis worked at NGTE 1963 until his retirement in 1981.Grade 2 eng worked on TSR2 & Concorde.He was secretary of social club too & my sister & I performed with NGTE Globe players.I still have a few photos. Will send link to him. There are more pics on www.industrialbritain.co.uk

  10. Posted 19 December 2007, 21:00 From francis jarratt

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    your pictures of ngte are fantastic. brings back memories i worked on the belliss and morcom steam turbine 1156 which replaced a 12mega watt parson gas turbine that never worked some joke. the steam turbine was built in 1962 .i was offered a job on completion of the project .do you have any pictures from the front of the belliss turbine. regards john jarratt.

  11. Posted 19 December 2007, 22:40 From francis jarratt

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    viewing belliss and morcom turbine from the governor end driving the c. a. parson alternator. this machine was installed in october 1962 in co-operation with the minstry of public buildings and works acting as agents for the ministry of aviation.

  12. Posted 1 January 2008, 19:20 From Tom White

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    I spent 6 weeks at Pyestock in 1969 on a University placement. At that time the Concorde engines and RB211 engines were under test. The test cells were huge full size wind tunnels, and the Concorde cell was of course super-sonic. The air house had 8 compressors each driven by 33000HP 9or was it kW???) motors, with 8000hp steam turbines to get them started. Two large venturi ejectors provided additional airflow. your filter rooms would probably have been the air intakes. The power house was built with boilers and turbines from a Battle class destroyer, hence called the 'Battle house'. Large amounts of power were also imported from the grid. Tests would run for 3 hours at a time.

    Other test cells included a sea level cell for marine gas turbines, and ram jet test cells. I found the whole place fascinating.

  13. Posted 4 February 2008, 09:50 From Jon A Fletcher

    Brings back very old memories.

    My Father who passed away in the 1980's work at NGTE-Pystock as The Deputy Director.

    I remember there was a great snooker room and also many bowling greens.

    A very sad sight to see.

  14. Posted 4 February 2008, 17:40 From Martin K

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    Great pictures. I was just wondering, when you enter these sites for exploration, do you seek permission first? if not, anyone been charged for tresspassing for exploring? Just curious.

    Thanks

  15. Posted 6 February 2008, 00:40 From Peter Stapleton

    I flunked A levels, drove past NGTE Nov 1975, wrote asking for a job and 2mths later I was in Engineering Heaven there.Left in 1977 to go to Uni.

    I had a fantastic time at Pyestock - a 19 yr old playing with huge machines, what fun! We did loads of good projects - curing flameout on the RB199 Tornado engine, birdstrike protection on Westland Whirlwind, and compressors which ultimately led to turbo-powered cars.. For those technically minded I was involved in the programming of the Uk's first 5 axis CNC machine there.

    Next time u sit in a 747, remember the compressor disk design of the RB211 came from Pyestock, The disk cross section was inspired by Helen Bloor's ( a secretary there) posterior. Lovely lady and a great engine!

    The people I worked with were the very best - Dr David Smith, Norman Waldron, Alex Johnstone, Dr Peter Came, Mike Bloor and Johnny Summers.. From the Admin Block I watched Paras falling to their death and a Meteor crash at Farnborough..

    Such a shame it's going to waste!

    So sod trespassing, reckon it's worth it for a commando recce and bonfire in the woods by the library. Anyone up for it? The original site pass looked like an Embasy fag packet and many times I had one on my dashboard, so that's how we can justify our presence

    BTW it used to be a golf course, hence the main road being the Fairway. The Cathedral was acoustically perfectly quiet - and a great place for lunchtime liaisons.... )

  16. Posted 20 February 2008, 20:10 From andrew hyde

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    good pictures my dad use to work there as a maintenace electrician in the 60s and 70s then moved up north its his seventy birthday in june 2008 and do you no where i coyuld buy some pictures from of the ngte site many thanks

  17. Posted 23 February 2008, 15:50 From David Bowie

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    This is an Admiralty 3-Drum Boiler, allegedly taken from a Battle-class Destroyer, hence the name "Battle House". Boiler casing to left, then exhaust gas uptake (to chimney), and finally steam turbo-driven Forced Draught Blower at centre.

    Any chance of a non-watermarked copy of picture ?

  18. Posted 27 February 2008, 13:40 From Mrs Joan Gardiner

    My late husband worked at NGTE from about 1954 until he retired as a SSO in 1984.He was responsible for the design,specification and commissioning of a Jet Noise Laboratory among other research but sadly Rheumatoid Arthritis shortened his career.

    However I may be 80yrs old but finding these sites,by chance on the internet, brought back very happy memories of NGTE and the open days and some sadnes that it is no more.

  19. Posted 28 March 2008, 11:50 From paul davidosn

    Hi there. What a fabulous page on an incredible site. I used to work here a few years ago (for an assosiated engine testing company) I am homw from the middle east soon and would love to go back there. if you would be interested in an expenses paid return to the site. PLEASE PLEASE get in touch. I looked around briefly while i worked on the site but on ones own there is only so much you can do. I will fill you in on the details if you contact me.... Paul

  20. Posted 28 March 2008, 12:00 From paul davidosn

    TO PETER STAPLETON. my email is pdavidson84@hotmail.com please get in touch if you fancy that reccy. For the benefit of others on the site reading this request for comany on another recce I believe in damaging nothing and removing nothing, just an opportunity to take the last pictures of a site that is dear to my heart as an gas turbine test engineer who used to work on the site.

  21. Posted 22 April 2008, 16:30 From Brian Willis

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    I worked here as part of my apprenticeship, and stayed on after as a fitter. We had a grander name than that but that is what we were. We used to service the Steam turbines and air compressors. I have spent mant an hour scrapping the white metal bearings between the three compressors. The "Boss" at the time was Wally Westerman. I remebmer Bill the forman who was a great chap and pretty well looked after us youngsters. There were many happy times here. Anybody remeber the "whellbarrow" race where I and Jack Holliman took on Ivor Roberts and Bob Rhodes. They cheated in that they had made a pair of wheels which were hidden, but we won. Great days if very noisey

  22. Posted 1 June 2008, 08:30 From Foz

    Came across this site by chance as wanted to search for deserted technical establishments (as you do). Fabulous to think of the pipe-smoking tweed jacketed engineers and scientists milling around here during the years it operated, and just a little bit scary imagining the noise generated by all this machinery when in operation. Shame most of this work is probably conducted on a boring computer these days. There is a dedicated site to this place although not many interior pics at the mo.

  23. Posted 22 June 2008, 21:20 From Ian Cripps

    I worked as a fitter in Battle House late ,73 / early'74before moving to a conveyor company in Camberley. At that time there were two Admiralty three-drum Yarrow boilers in Battle house 'A' and 'B', and a third five-drum controlled-superheat boiler 'C'. Steam was supplied to both the 'Air House' and the Beliss turbine in what was then also called the 'Admiralty Test House' across the road. (also to a Brush high-speed test turbine in an annex alongside Battle House) Shortly before I left another boiler was being built up towards the Air House - 'D' boiler(?) but I left before it was put into use. I remember periods of intense activity - especially if there was a breakdown such as changing the superheater elements on 'B' boiler and getting the 'Melesco' spherical ends steamtight followed by long periods of standing by waiting for 'something to go wrong' - a regular fill-in job was nursing the Weir steam pumps feeding the boilers with fuel oil - near tar-like 'Bunker C' - lighter oil was used on occasion to light up with. Another pet problem was with the Weir turbine feedwater pumps - nip the glands up too tight and they would overheat or leave them a bit slack and they would spray water all over the place.. Happy days! Two engineers I do remember - gentlemen - were Ron Jesse and Wally Westerman.

  24. Posted 4 July 2008, 13:20 From Simon Cully

    I worked in General Admin & Purchasing in the Main Office Block from 1980 to 1985 as Admin Assistant. Worked with Ray Herrington, John Whitefoot, Pat Wilson amongst others. Remember Fred Powers and Sid Hawkins in Stores. A fun place to work with a fantastic family feel to the place.

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